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Comments on: John Bogle on Bill Moyers http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/ Thoughts from the Founder of the Vanguard Group of Investment Companies Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:19:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Neal Clark http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/comment-page-1/#comment-103 Neal Clark Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:15:57 +0000 http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/#comment-103 My Wife and I recorded the show and watched it later. Mr. Bogle's words really sunk in on how this country is progressing and what kind of ideas need to be moved to the forefront of our minds and the minds of the public and the legislators in this country. It also shows that I made the right choice in investing in Vanguard with a founder a level set and passionate about the common investor. The show convinced my wife that I made the right choice and is on board with our plans of investing in index funds. Sincerely, Neal Clark Northwest Arkansas My Wife and I recorded the show and watched it later. Mr. Bogle’s words really sunk in on how this country is progressing and what kind of ideas need to be moved to the forefront of our minds and the minds of the public and the legislators in this country. It also shows that I made the right choice in investing in Vanguard with a founder a level set and passionate about the common investor. The show convinced my wife that I made the right choice and is on board with our plans of investing in index funds.

Sincerely,

Neal Clark
Northwest Arkansas

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By: JBA http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/comment-page-1/#comment-102 JBA Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:18:16 +0000 http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/#comment-102 Mr Bogle's appearance on the Moyers program prompted me to pick up the "Little Book of Common Sense Investing". This book deserves a prominent place on the bookshelf as an effective deterrent to the impulse to trade on market fluctuations. (ahem) I knew of Mr. Bogle, his reputation, and have owned Vanguard funds. I had not heard him speak or read any of his books. The financial industry is in need of more people like this! Mr Bogle’s appearance on the Moyers program prompted me to pick up the “Little Book of Common Sense Investing”.
This book deserves a prominent place on the bookshelf as an effective deterrent to the impulse to trade on market fluctuations. (ahem)

I knew of Mr. Bogle, his reputation, and have owned Vanguard funds. I had not heard him speak or read any of his books. The financial industry is in need of more people like this!

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By: litte_indian http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/comment-page-1/#comment-101 litte_indian Sun, 14 Oct 2007 02:52:15 +0000 http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/#comment-101 Sir, that was a great interview with Moyers. You are right about how the financial services industry is adding no value to society by trading pieces of paper around. The same argument applies to the $1.5 trillion health care/insurance industry. However I would argue that the latter is far more harmful to society than the former. We can avoid dealing with hedge fund managers all our lives but at some point we have to interact with the health care industry. The blame for rising costs of health care do not lie with the health care insurance companies as is commonly imagined. The insurance companies are here to fulfill a market need caused by expensive doctors who operate in a market which has been manipulated by forces such as the American Medical Association to keep the supply of doctors artificially low. As Milton Friedman the celebrated Nobel Prize winning author so tirelessly pointed out, the AMA is a special interest group which has worked hard to keep the barriers to entry into their profession difficult enough to enjoy an immunity from competition all in the name of protecting consumers. If a true free market were allowed to operate in the case of medicine the high fees that doctors charged would gradually and automatically come down to the point that purchasing health care insurance would be unnecessary. Until a free market is allowed to operate, health care costs will continue to out pace inflation. Sir, that was a great interview with Moyers. You are right about how the financial services industry is adding no value to society by trading pieces of paper around. The same argument applies to the $1.5 trillion health care/insurance industry. However I would argue that the latter is far more harmful to society than the former. We can avoid dealing with hedge fund managers all our lives but at some point we have to interact with the health care industry. The blame for rising costs of health care do not lie with the health care insurance companies as is commonly imagined. The insurance companies are here to fulfill a market need caused by expensive doctors who operate in a market which has been manipulated by forces such as the American Medical Association to keep the supply of doctors artificially low. As Milton Friedman the celebrated Nobel Prize winning author so tirelessly pointed out, the AMA is a special interest group which has worked hard to keep the barriers to entry into their profession difficult enough to enjoy an immunity from competition all in the name of protecting consumers. If a true free market were allowed to operate in the case of medicine the high fees that doctors charged would gradually and automatically come down to the point that purchasing health care insurance would be unnecessary. Until a free market is allowed to operate, health care costs will continue to out pace inflation.

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By: Therronmd http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/comment-page-1/#comment-100 Therronmd Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:36:40 +0000 http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/#comment-100 I was also quite impressed with Mr. Bogle's succinct analysis of what is taking place in our society today. As a physician, I see examples of decisions made only for the "bottom line" on a daily basis. This occurs at the level of hospital administration and very blatantly at the level of large insurance companies that create every obstacle possible to prescribe for, diagnose and treat patients. It seems that those at the top probably never took care of a patient and are most comfortable with their adding machines and balance sheets. Unfortunately, many physicians are also caught up with the financial aspects of running a practice and patients are starving for someone who will listen and care for them. The system sadly rewards volume as opposed to quality and does not support physicians who want to take time with patients, be thoughtful about their care and make a true difference in their health and lives. I am proud to inform you all that despite these challenges, I will continue to be a thorough, caring and "old fashioned" type of doctor that most patients desperately crave. I was also quite impressed with Mr. Bogle’s succinct analysis of what is taking place in our society today.

As a physician, I see examples of decisions made only for the “bottom line” on a daily basis. This occurs at the level of hospital administration and very blatantly at the level of large insurance companies that create every obstacle possible to prescribe for, diagnose and treat patients. It seems that those at the top probably never took care of a patient and are most comfortable with their adding machines and balance sheets.

Unfortunately, many physicians are also caught up with the financial aspects of running a practice and patients are starving for someone who will listen and care for them. The system sadly rewards volume as opposed to quality and does not support physicians who want to take time with patients, be thoughtful about their care and make a true difference in their health and lives.

I am proud to inform you all that despite these challenges, I will continue to be a thorough, caring and “old fashioned” type of doctor that most patients desperately crave.

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By: Jo http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/comment-page-1/#comment-99 Jo Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:57:55 +0000 http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/#comment-99 Finally! Bill Moyers interviewed a guest with heart as well as intelligence and common sense! Will you marry me, Mr. Bogle? Finally! Bill Moyers interviewed a guest with heart as well as intelligence and common sense! Will you marry me, Mr. Bogle?

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By: deb bury http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/comment-page-1/#comment-98 deb bury Sun, 30 Sep 2007 00:18:34 +0000 http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/#comment-98 Thank you for your interview with Bill M. The health care crisis is (along with all the many other issues) due to the continued scalping of tax payers by lack of Federal gov and state control. The housing market did not "just happen" and has been brewing also with the over reach of profit. I do agree that this country is holding enough citizens that are fed up with all parties and cannot put how they feel into words. I do know that when no one has anything anymore to take advantage of that no one will make anything. I do believe you are right that the country will rebel and is on the rise to that direction. The tax benefits given to the upper classes has out reached the higher common taxable structure of the poor. Please do go on Oprah for she has Michal Moore on with the health care problem. But unless the government corrects whats going on with the scalping of American citizens by every single corporation, etc. no socialized medical system will survive. Exactly like the Medicare, Medicare drug horror, and Social Security programs that have been misrun for years by the gov. Billions of fraud and waste by FEMA in Katrina and Billions of fraud and waste in Iraq. It is not the war that is bad for these people need stability, it is the management and lack of focus and accountability of the U.S in so many areas. Thank you for your time will Bill Moyers! Thank you for your interview with Bill M. The health care crisis is (along with all the many other issues) due to the continued scalping of tax payers by lack of Federal gov and state control. The housing market did not “just happen” and has been brewing also with the over reach of profit. I do agree that this country is holding enough citizens that are fed up with all parties and cannot put how they feel into words. I do know that when no one has anything anymore to take advantage of that no one will make anything. I do believe you are right that the country will rebel and is on the rise to that direction. The tax benefits given to the upper classes has out reached the higher common taxable structure of the poor. Please do go on Oprah for she has Michal Moore on with the health care problem. But unless the government corrects whats going on with the scalping of American citizens by every single corporation, etc. no socialized medical system will survive. Exactly like the Medicare, Medicare drug horror, and Social Security programs that have been misrun for years by the gov. Billions of fraud and waste by FEMA in Katrina and Billions of fraud and waste in Iraq. It is not the war that is bad for these people need stability, it is the management and lack of focus and accountability of the U.S in so many areas. Thank you for your time will Bill Moyers!

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By: jerijean http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/comment-page-1/#comment-97 jerijean Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:09:14 +0000 http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/#comment-97 WOW! I came across Mr Bogle's interview while channel surfing.....I appreciate that he was able to express what I had been thinking. My husband and I work hard, live conservatively, try to save and invest for our future but get no where. Investment strategies are a "dime a dozen"; we have finally moved what we can into FDIC insured CD's for the long haul. It was apparent to us that the only people making money were the "money changers" and CEO's who are in position to manipulate policies and influence regulatory oversight. It was refreshing to hear Mr. Bogle say that pay and bonuses for CEOs, Hedgefund Managers, etc are out of line. I believe he expressed that due to greed, the current capitalistic system in America is unsustainable. A very scary thought when China comes to collect our IOU's. WOW! I came across Mr Bogle’s interview while channel surfing…..I appreciate that he was able to express what I had been thinking. My husband and I work hard, live conservatively, try to save and invest for our future but get no where. Investment strategies are a “dime a dozen”; we have finally moved what we can into FDIC insured CD’s for the long haul. It was apparent to us that the only people making money were the “money changers” and CEO’s who are in position to manipulate policies and influence regulatory oversight. It was refreshing to hear Mr. Bogle say that pay and bonuses for CEOs, Hedgefund Managers, etc are out of line. I believe he expressed that due to greed, the current capitalistic system in America is unsustainable. A very scary thought when China comes to collect our IOU’s.

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By: Lar http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/comment-page-1/#comment-96 Lar Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:44:35 +0000 http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/#comment-96 Excellent presentation. --Reminiscent of Kevin Phillips wordier 'Wealth and Democracy" as well as the fictional and bizarre "Lunacy in America" from 1980 [ http://www.ch49.com/LunacyIntro.htm ] As Plato wrote 2400 years ago when a society prizes wealth as its highest virtue the spirit of moderation can not be maintained among its citizens. Excellent presentation. –Reminiscent of Kevin Phillips wordier ‘Wealth and Democracy” as well as the fictional and bizarre “Lunacy in America” from 1980 [ http://www.ch49.com/LunacyIntro.htm ] As Plato wrote 2400 years ago when a society prizes wealth as its highest virtue the spirit of moderation can not be maintained among its citizens.

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By: AVTech1954 http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/comment-page-1/#comment-95 AVTech1954 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 09:09:05 +0000 http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/#comment-95 HOOORAY for your appearance and comments on Bill Moyers this evening. FINALLY someone in the financial industry, one of "Their Own" so to speak, expressing great concern for the consequences for the current lack of conscience and ramppent short sitedness of the finance industry. I thought I was just going crazy and and had somehow been transported into some kind of "Bizzaro World" where ALL that matters is The Bottom Line. Maybe you and Mr. Greenspan should team up on a speaking tour. I'll buy a ticket!!! Can't wait to buy...and READ your book. HOOORAY for your appearance and comments on Bill Moyers this evening.
FINALLY someone in the financial industry, one of “Their Own” so to speak, expressing great concern for the consequences for the current lack of conscience and ramppent short sitedness of the finance industry. I thought I was just going crazy and and had somehow been transported into some kind of “Bizzaro World” where ALL that matters is The Bottom Line.
Maybe you and Mr. Greenspan should team up on a speaking tour. I’ll buy a ticket!!!
Can’t wait to buy…and READ your book.

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By: slycal http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/comment-page-1/#comment-94 slycal Sat, 29 Sep 2007 05:42:55 +0000 http://johncbogle.com/wordpress/2007/09/26/john-bogle-on-bill-moyers/#comment-94 I just watch the show on PBS and i really want to give my support to John Bogle. I believe that his description of the modern capitalism is a very important contribution to the his country and its economy. I'm experiencing the modern capitalism at my life with delocalisation, short term strategy and pauperisation of the middle class. I m glad you speak out.... I just watch the show on PBS and i really want to give my support to John Bogle. I believe that his description of the modern capitalism is a very important contribution to the his country and its economy.
I’m experiencing the modern capitalism at my life with delocalisation, short term strategy and pauperisation of the middle class. I m glad you speak out….

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